Meowbrown

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Language learning notebook for polyglots.

소개하기 Self Intro

Here’s my fake business card (명함) to help with the exercise in the lesson I’m taking:

이름미아우브라운입니다. My name is meowbrown.
직업블로거입니다. My job is a blogger.
사무실 전화번호는 02-1824-7195입니다. (pronunciation: 공이에 일파리사에 치릴구오임니다. Office phone number is…
핸드폰 번호는 010-3379-9154입니다. (pronunciation: 공일공에 삼삼칠구에 구이로사입니다. Mobile number is…
이메일은 hello@meowbrown.com입니다. (@ 골뱅이, . 점 pronounced as 쩜) Email is…
주소는 서울시 종로구 광화문로 142입니다. Address is…

Question: Do Koreans really carry over the sound for phone numbers when they speak? I’m wondering whether the teacher is trying to make us practice the carry over pronunciation or is this normal in Korea 🤔 The reason I can’t ask the teacher is because it’s an online course, that’s a difference between having a 1:1 session.

indigostudies:

my friend and i were going to study a language together and wound up having to cancel our plans due to scheduling pressures, but! through research we came across a really cool resource for reading in a TON of languages: bloom library!

as you can see, it has a lot of books for languages that are usually a bit harder to find materials for—we were going to use it for kyrgyz, for example, which has over 1000 books, which was really hard to find textbook materials for otherwise. as you can see it also has books with audio options, which would be really useful for pronunciation checking. as far as i can tell, everything on the site is free as well.

Checked it out and the catalogue is great for Indonesian and German. Not much for Japanese and for Korean it seems to be all in the category of spiritual at the moment.

tokidokitokyo:

Podcast Review: ことのは

Podcast Title: 日本語の会話のpodcast −ことのは−

(にほんごのかいわのpodcast −ことのは−)

Available On: Spotify, YouTube

Ease of Listening: ★★★★★

Length of Episodes: ★★★★★

Level of Engagement: ★★★★★

Episode Frequency: ★★★★★

Overall: ★★★★★

Today I will be reviewing the Japanese conversation podcast ことのは (Kotonoha) by Yamamo-sensei and Kibi-sensei. They have episodes for all levels, separated by JLPT level N5-N1 and labeled so you can determine which episodes best suit your level or challenge yourself with a higher level.

Do I currently listen to this podcast?: Yes, I like this podcast a lot and listen to it frequently.

General Overview

Good For Levels: Beginner | Intermediate | Advanced

In this series, Yamamo and Kibi, two Japanese language teachers based in Japan, speak on a variety of topics in a conversation style of podcast. The conversation-style format is good for training your ear to listen to questions and responses, and every day banter between two speakers. They talk about Japanese culture and their own personal experiences which gives listeners an insight to the particulars of daily life in Japan.

Length of Episodes ★★★★★

The podcasts are usually around 20-30 minutes long. This is ideal for a commute or when you have some down time. They cover 2-3 subtopics within each topic they pick, so the conversations are very interesting and catch my attention and they don’t seem too short or too long. They plan out each conversation topic carefully and keep it interesting and informative.

Level of Engagement ★★★★★

The conversation format is very engaging because they cover 2-3 subtopics within the main topic and structure the conversation to focus on each point of the topic. They keep the listener engaged with carefully planned-out topics and conversations, and there is obviously a lot of work that goes into their podcast. They match the vocabulary and pace of speaking with the level they are targeting, but even in the higher level podcasts I believe beginners would be able to catch the general flow of the conversation and challenge themselves to understand the content.

Episode Frequency ★★★★★

New podcasts come out once a week, and with the planning that goes into each episode it’s a very good pace. There is also a lot of episodes already produced so you can go through them fairly quickly without running out of material.

Overall ★★★★★

This podcast is designed by two Japanese language teachers to convey information about Japanese culture completely in Japanese. The episodes are labeled by JLPT difficulty and I find the label system to be very accurate. It is a good podcast with which to practice your listening skills for every day conversation and to learn a bit more about Japanese culture.

Thanks for the detailed review, exactly what I’m looking for. I’ll listen to this episode today!

How I get stuck with conversations

I take classes once a week so it usually starts with my teacher asking:

  • では、週末は何をしましたか?
    What did you do on the weekend?
  • 何が予定がありますか?
    Do you have anything planned?
  • 先週は何をしましたか?
    What did you do last week?

Main reason is 語彙が足りない

語彙 (ごい) が足りない (たりない): Not enough vocabulary

Examples

  1. I had a health checkup recently, I know health is 健康 (けんこう) but don’t have the words to say checkup. If I knew the word, it’s just 健康診断 (しんだん) に行きました。It make sense to not know all of the words such as 採血 (さいけつ) or 血液 (けつえき) 検察, but at least I can say something like 血を取られた, but at that time I can’t even remember 血。
  2. Saying I need to travel around the end of February, all I can remember is 二月中旬 (ちゅうじゅん) and not have the vocabulary for 下旬 (げじゅん), which is supposed to be a pretty common word when talking about my activities.

Explaining things that’s too hard for me

Recently, I’ve watched 陰の実力者になりたくて (The Eminence in Shadow) and am having trouble to explain what the anime is about. I feel it’s okay-ish for not being able to say it in Japanese because I’m even having a hard time saying it in English.

The main character is actually really strong, but has severe 中二病. He also has a hobby of acting like a background character that you usually see in anime. I tried to explain the “what you see usually” part as: like being the first one to get injured, and stuff like that.

It’s hard for me to explain it clearly, I should’ve focused on how the main character hides his powers and stop there.

地震 (じしん) related words

April has been full of earthquakes in Taiwan.

In the past two days there’s been so many earthquakes 🥺 I wanted to talk to my teacher about it, so here’s the list of words I’ve collected.

Related pronunciations

  • 地震 – earthquake
  • 自信 – self-confidence
  • 自身 – self
地震/自信/自身meowbrown

Related words

  • 震度 (しんど) – seismic intensity
    震度5強 (きょう) の地震があった。
    There was an earthquake with a seismic intensity of strong 5.
  • 余震 (よしん) – aftershock
    大きな地震の後に何度も余震が続いた (つずいた)。
    After the big earthquake, there were many aftershocks.
  • 断層 (だんそう) – fault (geology)
    その地域 (ちいき) は複数 (ふくすう) の断層が存在 (そんざい) している。
    There are multiple faults in that area.
  • 震源地 (しんげんち) – epicenter
    震源地は市 (し) の中心部 (ちゅうしんぶ) 近くにあった。
  • マグニチュード – magnitude
    その地震のマグニチュードは7.2だった。
    The earthquake had a magnitude of 7.2.
  • 地震計 (じしんけい) – seismometer
    地震計が大きな揺れを検知 (けんち) した。
    The seismometer detected strong shaking.
  • 揺れ (ゆれ) – shake
    地震の揺れがとても強かった。
    The shaking from the earthquake was very strong.

Difference between マグニチュード and 震度

マグニチュード: total amount of energy released by the earthquake at its source
震度: how big you felt it in your local area

me- prefix for verbs in Indonesian

People can still understand you even if you don’t know this.

Why I’m learning this now

I started Indonesian with conversations and didn’t want to care too much about rules and grammar. Up until now, I’ve randomly add me- when I feel like it 🤣 truth is, people will still understand.

I feel like I’ve been stuck in the same level for some time, so trying to pick up these rules bit by bit.

How is it used

Used for active verbs, indicating an action performed by a subject.

Prefix: root word starts with
(red means the letter is dropped)

  • me + m: b, f, p
  • me + n: d, j, c, t
  • me + ng: vowels, g, h, k
  • me + ny: s
  • me: everything else

Examples

  1. B: beli (buy) – membeli
  2. F: fokus (focus) – memfokuskan (make notes on the -kan affix in the future)
  3. P: pakai (use) – memakai (note: ‘p’ dropped)
  4. D: dengar (hear) – mendengar
  5. J: jual (sell) – menjual
  6. C: cuci (wash) – mencuci
  7. T: tulis (write) – menulis (note: ’t’ dropped)
  8. A: ambil (take) – mengambil
  9. G: ganti (change) – mengganti
  10. H: hafal (memorize) – menghafal (note: more academic word than mengingat)
  11. K: kirim (send) – mengirim (note: ‘k’ dropped)
  12. S: salin (copy) – menyalin (note: ’s’ dropped)
  13. L: lihat (see) – melihat
  14. M: minum (drink) – meminum
  15. N: nanti (wait) – menanti
  16. R: rata (flatten) – merata
  17. W: warna (color) – mewarna
  18. Y: yakin (assure) – meyakinkan

What’s next

My TODO list:

  • -kan affix
  • pe- prefix
  • ter- prefix
  • ber- prefix
  • -i affix

masaotheheckindog:

meowbrown:

masaotheheckindog:

Had a lot of vocabularies today

覚ます (さます) – to wake someone up
彼は早く目を覚ます必要があります。
He needs to wake up early.

直接 (ちょくせつ) – direct, directly
彼は直接社長に報告しました。
He reported directly to the president.

爆発 (ばくはつ) – explosion
彼女は昨日の爆発で亡くなった。
She passed away in yesterday’s explosion.

詰まる (つまる) – to be clogged, to be blocked
流しの排水管が詰まっている。
The sink drain is clogged.

放す (はなす) – to release, to let go
鳥を空に放した。
They released the bird into the sky.

我慢 (がまん) – patience, endurance
彼女は痛みを我慢した。
She endured the pain.

戦う (たたかう) – to fight, to battle
彼は正義のために戦う。
He fights for justice.

拝む (おがむ) – to pray, to worship
彼女は毎日神社で拝む。
She prays at the shrine every day.

虹色 (にじいろ) – rainbow-colored
空には美しい虹色が広がっていた。
A beautiful rainbow color spread across the sky.

山門 (さんもん) – the main gate of a temple
古い寺の山門は立派だった。
The old temple’s main gate was magnificent.

wow, thank you for transcribing them and giving examples!

I’m putting this particular vocabulary deck together myself based on things I’m encountering in my daily life, songs I like, as well as vocabularies from my grammar deck, so it’s great to see more examples using them.

That’s what initially drawn me to this post because I have a feeling this is where the vocabulary is coming from 🥳

masaotheheckindog:

Had a lot of vocabularies today

覚ます (さます) – to wake someone up
彼は早く目を覚ます必要があります。
He needs to wake up early.

直接 (ちょくせつ) – direct, directly
彼は直接社長に報告しました。
He reported directly to the president.

爆発 (ばくはつ) – explosion
彼女は昨日の爆発で亡くなった。
She passed away in yesterday’s explosion.

詰まる (つまる) – to be clogged, to be blocked
流しの排水管が詰まっている
The sink drain is clogged.

放す (はなす) – to release, to let go
鳥を空に放した
They released the bird into the sky.

我慢 (がまん) – patience, endurance
彼女は痛みを我慢した。
She endured the pain.

戦う (たたかう) – to fight, to battle
彼は正義のために戦う
He fights for justice.

拝む (おがむ) – to pray, to worship
彼女は毎日神社で拝む
She prays at the shrine every day.

虹色 (にじいろ) – rainbow-colored
空には美しい虹色が広がっていた。
A beautiful rainbow color spread across the sky.

山門 (さんもん) – the main gate of a temple
古い寺の山門は立派だった。
The old temple’s main gate was magnificent.

haru-dipthong:

The difference between あのー and えーっと

As I touched on in my japanese goncharov post, it’s amazing how much novel research, entertainment, and art are locked behind a language barrier. Even though as english speakers, we are privileged to have many things translated into our language, it’s a simple fact that most things will not be translated into most languages.

I am a huge fan of ゆる言語学ラジオ, a japanese podcast about linguistics. The hosts recently released a book, 言語沼, which goes into detail about some of the subconscious rules native japanese speakers follow but aren’t consciously aware of (an english equivalent might be that adjective-ordering rule we follow e.g. big brown cow, not brown big cow). I’m finding it fascinating, and I wanted to discuss some of it here in english, because I think people learning japanese would find some of these things really useful. It’d be a shame if this knowledge stayed stuck behind the japanese language barrier when the people who would find it the most useful can’t speak japanese fluently enough to read it!

The book talks about how most Japanese people will think of 「あのー」 and 「えーっと」 as having the exact same meaning – they’re both “meaningless” filler words. Despite their belief that they’re the same, those same native speakers will subconsciously only use あのー in one particular type of situation and 「えーっと」 in another, and even feel confused or annoyed if they hear another speaker use one in the wrong context.

So what’s the actual difference? 「えーっと」 is used when the speaker is taking time to remember or solve something. For example, the following exchange is very natural:

Person A: 7 x 5は?
Person B: えーっと、35だ

This makes it a pretty versatile filler word! You can use it pretty much anywhere. Another example would be when you’re talking to yourself, trying to remember where you left your keys.

えーっと、鍵どこ置いたっけ?

On the other hand, あのー is much more specific. It can only be used when you’re taking time to figure out the best way to phrase something. For example, when you’re trying to get a stranger’s attention.

あのー、ちょっといいですか?

In contrast, if Person A was addressed with 「えーっと、ちょっといいですか?」by Person B, they’d feel it was rude because instead of considering how to say something, B is considering what to say, which gives the impression that they hadn’t even figured out what they needed to ask before addressing Person A.

This gives 「あのー」 a more ”polite” feeling than 「えーっと」, even though neither is actually more polite than the other. They’re just used in different circumstances.

Let’s quickly look at the example with the lost keys again. If you replace the filler word:

あのー、鍵どこ置いたっけ?

It is very unnatural. The authors of the book jokingly say that it sounds like you’re talking to a ghost, because 「あのー」 is only used when you’re figuring out how to phrase something, and you wouldn’t worry about that if you’re talking to yourself.

Also, did you know even japanese children properly use each filler word in the correct situation? Despite almost all japanese people (even as adults) being unaware of this rule, they’re subconsciously abiding by it even as children – just from listening to their parents follow the same rules!

It really is amazing how good your subconscious mind is at acquiring language, and how terrible your conscious mind is at it. If you’re not already, I highly recommend integrating a lot of simple language content (e.g. youtube, kids shows, etc) into your study routine – listening to people talk is simply the fastest way to become fluent in your target language.

Amazingly I could feel あのー、鍵どこ置いたっけ?sounds weird. Perhaps the years of anime watching helps?